Disappointment
Okay. This is not a new story. It’s been experienced over and over by many a person, including myself on more than a few occasions. I have for the most part withheld on writing about this sort of thing, but for some reason tonight I’m especially irritated/disappointed, so here goes:
I teach English at a university. Mainly I teach freshmen and sophomores, but I also have a class in the evening which is more or less like that of a private institute - it is composed primarily of businesspeople. Anyway, tonight was the final class of the session, so we decided to go to a fried pork (삼겹살) restaurant. My overall impression of this class is that they are a good group of people and we were having a good time. But then the alcohol started to flow.
To be fair, this story is only about one particular individual. Someone who struck me as a pretty nice guy. Until we finished our dinner and went to a bar, that is. The group started off with a few drinking games. Innocent enough. After about twenty minutes, someone suggested that we stop and have some conversation. Good idea. Or so I thought.
Out of the blue, the guy asked me, “Have you ever been to Thailand?” I told him that I’ve been there three times. “I really like that country,” he said. Then suddenly, “But I couldn’t understand why the men there just look.” I asked him what he meant. He continued, “So many white guys walk around with Thai girls. I can’t understand why the Thai men just look. I was really disappointed in them.”
“Christ. Here we go,” I thought. I’ve been confronted with this sort of thing before and have learned that there’s nothing to be gained from any sort of in-depth conversation on the topic. I don’t know - maybe I’m a bastard, but when this sort of topic comes up I tend to take the mocking “well your shit stinks too” tack. “What do you mean ‘white men’? There are plenty of Japanese and Korean men who meet Thai girls too,” I answered. “Oh, no,” he said, and I asked him if he was familiar with Pattaya. He just smiled the smile of someone who knew that I was on to his game. I decided to toss one more subtle jab in his direction, “You know, if my sister were to date someone from another country, I really wouldn’t care. As long as he was a nice guy. I really can’t understand why someone would care what race a person is or what country he’s from.” That was the end of the conversation.
If the point the guy was trying to make had been sex tourism, I wouldn’t have had a problem with what he said. But that’s not what he was getting at. His problem was that foreign (read: white) men were dating Thai women and to him the natural reaction was to be pissed off about it. And the fact that Thai men weren’t pissed off disgusted him.
As I said at the start of this rant, this sort of experience here is quite common. Enough so that people tend to lump everyone into the same racist group. Personally, I try very hard to abide by the philosophy of accepting individuals as good people until they give me reason not to. However, this guy has been added to a unfortunately growing list.
October 13th, 2006 at 7:21 pm
I was just discussing this exact topic with the Metropolitician at lunch today. Exact same thing happened to me in Hongdae last month. Must be something in their blood. K-Aryan Nation and shit.
October 16th, 2006 at 11:33 am
What was he talking about? Korean men just look too.
October 20th, 2006 at 11:55 pm
Let’s not be hypocritical here. Don’t tell me your average white guy doesn’t have something smarmy to say when he sees a black male/white female couple sauntering their way.
I can’t tell you how many times I’ve seen seething rednecks particularly in the Deep South and Southwest get their panties in a wad when a black guy goes walking down the street arm-in-arm with a white chick — especially so if she’s blonde and/or hot. It cuts both ways and if it has anything to do “something in their blood”, it’s testosterone, which perhaps some of you are lacking in. Comments anyone?
October 21st, 2006 at 12:39 am
Why would I say anything if a black guy was with a hot blonde girl? I mean.. I’m a lowly English teacher in Korea.. worthless really.. and I’m sure she wouldn’t give me the time of day.
Instead.. I came here.. to try and steal ‘a’ woman.
Was that the desired response?
Seriously.. and I mean this.. swarmy comments regarding race are extremely rare in similar situations. Yes.. there may be some envy.. some comments of a man being ‘lucky’… but never angst.
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:26 pm
That’s b/c Shaun is African American.
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:39 pm
H. Kim - No doubt there are white guys in the States who say something smarmy when they see a black guy with a white girl. I have just as little respect for them as I do for Korean guys who do the same. I don’t agree, however, that the “average” white guy is like that. Of course, I grew up mainly in the Pacific Northwest, so I can’t speak for the southern U.S. However, since I live in Korea now the focus of this blog is primarily Korea. If others want to blog on social issues back home, that’s cool.
October 25th, 2006 at 4:12 pm
Comparing Korean anger toward WM/KF couples to White anger toward BM/WF couples is comparing apples and oranges.
October 25th, 2006 at 10:33 pm
Comparing Korean anger toward WM/KF couples to White anger toward BM/WF couples is comparing apples and oranges.
Only if you’re a racist. Otherwise, people are people. People are not bananas, oranges or apples. People are people. You probably believe that because Blacks are somehow different from Whites, who are somehow inherently different from Asians, you cannot compare individuals or couples of different races.
Please don’t do that.
It makes me think of you as you resembling that small man with the even smaller mustache, or as someone dressed in a white bedsheet and pillowcase.
January 9th, 2007 at 4:26 pm
Dogbert, you got them going now!